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In Sunday’s game at Jacksonville, San Diego Chargers’ all-everything quarterback Philip Rivers accomplished a pair of milestones to add to a laundry list of other career achievements. Rivers recovered from a dismal showing against the Kansas City Chiefs where he managed a season-low 178 yards through the air and no passing touchdowns in the Chargers’ 33-3 loss. Sunday, Rivers looked and played like the elite quarterback we all know him to be. He threw for 300 yards and four touchdowns in the 31-25 Bolts’ win.

With two touchdown passes going into halftime, Rivers moved into a tie for 13th place with San Francisco 49er legend Joe Montana for career touchdown passes (273). With two more touchdown passes in the second half, Rivers moved into a tie with Vinny Testaverde for 11th place on the all-time touchdown passes list (275). With his next touchdown pass, Rivers will move into sole possession of 11th place, pushing Testaverde into 12th place.

Ironically, sitting in tenth place is a man Rivers is forever tied to in NFL and Chargers lore, class of 2004 draft mate Eli Manning. With 282 scoring passes, Manning is seven touchdowns ahead of Rivers. What makes the accomplishment even more impressive for Rivers is the fact that he’s ready to surpass Manning even though the New York Giants’ QB had a two-year head start; Manning started from day one with the Giants. Rivers sat behind Drew Brees and didn’t start for the Chargers until his third season in the NFL.

Rivers entered the game needing 134 yards to reach the 40,000-yard plateau. In doing so, he became the fourth-fastest to accomplish the feat in NFL history. This season alone, Rivers has surpassed Chargers great Dan Fouts, Sonny Jurgensen, Dave Krieg, Ben Roethlisberger and Joe Montana on the all-time touchdown passes list. With five games remaining, he’s on pace to surpass Testaverde (275) and possibly Manning (282). Johnny Unitas (290) and Warren Moon (291) will fall to Rivers early next season, at the latest.

There’s no doubt in my mind that Rivers is an elite quarterback in this league. He is also the most taken for granted of the elite quarterbacks league-wide. The talking heads think there is room to debate whether Rivers is Hall-Of-Fame worthy. The accomplishments listed above should prove that he belongs in Canton, among his other achievements. The NFL and even a segment of Chargers fans don’t appreciate what the 33-year-old has accomplished in lightning bolts. He is a leader, a winner, an inspiration to all around him. Rivers ranks right next to Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers as the most cerebral quarterbacks in the league.

With the four-year extension Rivers signed this past offseason it ensures he will retire a Charger. We should all take the time to appreciate the brilliance this man shows us on a week-in, week-out basis before he’s gone and we all realize how good we had it when a rookie is trying to move the ball down the field for San Diego.

 

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Story Written by Chris Curran ( @ccurran2744 )

Rivers and Manning will forever be linked and debated.  The media bias leans toward Manning.  I know it’shard to argue with two Super Bowl wins.  I could counter that if the quarterbacks switched teams, Rivers would have two titles as well.

After 2003, Drew Brees was not panning out as a Charger QB. The local team was picking first overall.  AJ Smith was not very high on Brees and was in the market for a new starting QB.

There were three QB’s in the 2004 draft that were considered first round talent.  There was a quarterback from Mississippi with “Manning” on his back that was pretty good.  Roethlisberger from Miami of Ohio University and Rivers from North Carolina State were considerations as well.

Roethlisberger, or “Big Ben,” was big and strong with a tremendous arm.  He could move and throw on the run with the best improvisational skills.  He played his college ball in the MAC.

Rivers started every game in four years.  He brought respectability to a college program that rarely won anything and was a College Bowl MVP five times in four years.  He was considered an exceptional leader and held a high football IQ,

Manning had the best mechanics and an NFL pedigree that will never be matched.  A solid first round talent, although I do believe if his name was not Manning he would have been the number three among the quarterbacks taken in round one of the 2004 NFL draft.

Archie Manning announced that his youngest boy would not play for the San Diego Chargers.  Archie refused to state any reason for this other than to say the Chargers were not a good fit for his son.  Maybe he did not like the Spanos Family.  Maybe he was not a Schottenheimer fan.  Maybe he remembers the beating, he himself, took in New Orleans on a lousy team and was afraid to have history repeat itself.  Maybe a combination of all three made him pull his Royal ‘Manning card’ to not have his son play for a franchise stuck in nine years of playoff futility.

In 1983, John Elway let everyone know he did not want to play in Baltimore, the reason being his family had no respect for then coach, Frank Cush.  Jack Elway (John’s father) and Cush were not the best of friends.  John Elway spoke for himself to the press and Baltimore Colts.  I lost complete respect for Eli when he let his father do all his bidding.

In 2004 Ernie Accorsi, General Manager of the New York Giants, held the fourth overall picks.The Giants needed a quarterback.  Accorsi, being famous in football circlesfor losing arguably the highest rated quarterback prospect ever.  Elway was lost in a post draft trade to Denver made by the owner after selecting him number one overall.  That pick was against the Elway family wishes. In 2004 Accorsi had his heart set on Eli Manning.  Accorsi relayed this info to Archie early on and later let the press know of his desire to draft Eli Manning.

As the draft approached Charger General Manager, AJ Smith, was about to make his shrewdest and greatest move as an NFL executive.

AJ may have coveted Rivers all along.  He did not cave to a pre draft trade proposal by New York.  AJ held off until his price was met.  He even went so far as to select Eli first overall.  I still remember the constipated look on Eli’s face as he reluctantly held up the Charger jersey and cap with Goodell.

The Raiders selected offensive lineman Robert Gallery second overall and Arizona took wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald third overall, the Giants were on the clock and picked Rivers.  No one in the Giants war room even had the courtesy to call Rivers about being their selection, reason being that a deal was being consummated with the Chargers.  In order to obtain Manning number one overall, the Giants traded Rivers, who was number four overall, a third round pick in the current draft, a first round and fifth round pick in the following year.  The Chargers turned those picks into kicker Nate Kaeding, outside linebacker, Shawne Merriman and offensive lineman, Roman Oben.

As for the 3rd QB taken in round one of 2004, Roethlisberger was drafted by Pittsburgh and has been very successful.  He has two glaring negatives, these being durability and a questionable character at best.

Due to the Drew Brees hangover, Eli had twenty-one more career starts early in his career.  This and the two playoff runs give the edge to Eli.  You cannot take away the results.  Most other remaining intangibles do go to Rivers.  Completion percentage, yards per game, touchdown-interception ratio and quarterback rating are all in Rivers favor.  Both quarterbacks have been durable and have yet to miss a start.

So, if the two Super Bowl wins are the benchmark, lets examine them.  Does anyone think Doug Williams, Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer, or Brad Johnson are better than Dan Fouts, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly or Warren Moon?

Eli’s Giants had a superior dominant defensive line.  An ill-advised pass, and other bone headed decisions by Brett Favre led to crucial turnovers.  A down field heave throw up for grabs followed by a fluke catch off a helmet? These plays led to Eli’s first Super Bowl win.  A 49er fumbled a punt in the Red Zone and a crucial Wes Welker drop led to Eli’s second Super Bowl win.  I understand a win is a win and that is the bottom line.  However, there are always other factors that lead to wins and losses outside quarterback play.

So if Eli gets credit for these play-off wins, then is Rivers to blame for Charger playoff losses?  Rivers played without his pro bowl tight end, A. Gates, and pro bowl running back, L. Tomlinson.  Playing on a completely torn ACL factors in to.  Kaeding missed three field goals in each of Rivers’ playoff losses.  Not to mention, the cluster of Marty gaffes, (fumbled punt, dropped TD, several personal fouls, going for it on 4th and 11, etc.) in the 24-21 home loss to the New England Patriots.

Like I said, the comparisons may never end, but if I were building a team, I would start with Rivers.  How about you?

Chris Curran

 

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