Before I begin, I want to say there are two groups of fans this does not apply to: the first is season ticket holders who did not sell their seats to opposing fans and went to all games; the second group is “Save Our Bolts.” It was very admirable what you guys did and you all should be very proud. It is also worth noting that the whole “Chargers to LA” thing is still mostly speculation at this point.
Obviously, there are more fans that this applies to, but I wanted to make sure to take the time to mention the folks who stand out in my mind. Again, thank you all for everything that you have done and that you’ll continue to do as we near a resolution regarding the stadium situation in San Diego.
Now, let’s get to the reason that the Chargers fan base is not without fault should the move occur.
First, the San Diego Chargers in 2016 are ranked 31st out of 32 in attendance. Behind them is the Oakland Raiders, so at least we are beating them in something this season. The sad fact is we are a lot better team than a lot of the teams above us, such as; Cleveland and Jacksonville. How is it that the fans of San Diego expect the team not to look at other options when they do not even show up to the game. Not to mention if anyone saw the games vs the Denver Broncos or Miami Dolphins this season, it looks like an away game for our squad. Here is an article USA Today created about this very phenomenon this season (http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2016/10/13/san-diego-home-game-denver-broncos-chargers-tnf).
Second, fans of San Diego are letting the players down. Even more than they let us down on Sundays. Some may remember when the choice was announced that some Chargers players took to twitter and said, “every home game better be sold out.” Well, as previously stated, the Chargers are ranked 31st in attendance out of 32. So even though the players and organization are dying to get more fans to the stadium. To which the Chargers fan base plainly stated by their actions, no, we will not show up until you start winning games. In other words, a bandwagon mentality. (http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/1/29/10873822/san-diego-chargers-players-reactions-los-angeles-show-up).
Third, the failure of Prop C, although the team did all they could, and so did the citizens initiative. The citizens of San Diego, do not want the Chargers, even though the plan actually included creating a permanent situation with comic con and zero taxpayer dollars. That was not enough to keep the team around.
It does not make sense for a team to stay someplace that they are not making money, that is what the bottom line is in the case of the Chargers. They are not making enough money off of tickets. Also with the low attendance numbers that does not help the other way that a lot of teams make money. They are called sponsors, how can you sell sponsorship or advertising space when you rank second to last in attendance and have not been higher than 19 in the past six years.
At least if they end up playing in the Stubhub Center in Carson, California as a temporary venue it is much smaller attendance wise and maybe just maybe, there is a chance for a 100 percent Chargers sellout game.
On the flip side, there is some things that the Chargers could have done marketing wise in order to get more and more CHARGER fans out to the game that have not been done. For example, maybe putting a winning football team on the field, or creating more advertisements and deals to specific groups that create a better image to the community of San Diego. Instead of just visiting places and doing community service, maybe invite those who do not have a lot to the game and grant them experiences that will last a lifetime. Usually if the public has a high opinion of a team, they are more likely to support that team. That is one reason why the Chicago Bears and every team in Chicago has some of the most loyal fans on earth.
The bottom line is, the San Diego Chargers have not ranked higher than 19th ever since 2009 when the Chargers went 13-3.
After proposition C got struck down with a vengeance by the voters from the city of San Diego, even though the stadium was going to be built using no taxpayer dollars what so ever. That leaves one logical spot, and that is to revamp the current mission valley location. It is a prime location because even though it is not close to downtown, it is surrounded by several major freeways and in a highly populated area. What is Dean Spanos thoughts on revamping the mission valley spot? In an interview with U-T San Diego, Dean said,” I am not a believer in Mission Valley — I don’t think I would ever go back there.” So, if he was being 100 percent truthful, that knocks out the Mission Valley option, leaving only Los Angeles on the table.
Despite the weather in America’s finest city, it is not always sunny in San Diego when it comes to Chargers’ news as of late. Although Eric Weddle has reported to mandatory minicamp, he called out the team for their lack of respect regarding a contract extension. The organization has now walked away from the negotiating table and been called out for it by members of the city of San Diego. Among those pointing the finger at Dean Spanos, Mark Fabiani and company is Mayor Faulconer.
At least the trade talks of Philip Rivers are over.
I really prefer the offseasons where we are a group of bored Charger fans, counting down the days until the regular season.
While the disastrous offseason continues in San Diego, a video surfaced the other day of a meeting in Carson where the City Clerk, Jim Dear, went on a rant about the goings on in the City of Carson and Mayor Al Robles.
Without ruining the fun, here’s the link for the video.
For those of you that would like a breakdown of the meeting and what happened in Carson, you can find one here via the dailybreeze.com.
What will a joint venture between the City of San Diego and the County of San Diego mean to the Chargers? To begin with, it does is alter one bone of contention – the vote. Or does it? Secondly, it paves the way for the two entities to (hopefully) meet on mutual ground in the bid to keep the Bolts in San Diego. Third, it perhaps gives the team, and its fan base, hope for the future. Finally, it may prove that the deal in Carson is what many believe it to be – a bluff rather than reality.
Mayor Kevin Faulconer announced Thursday that the city and the County, behind Supervisor Ron Roberts, will be splitting costs in the hiring of attorneys, consultants and other experts to assist with the impending issue. Each side will present its findings/proposals by the May 20 deadline. It has to be fair to all the involved parties – the city, the county and the team. Keep in mind that this undertaking not only affects Chargers football but that of San Diego State in addition to other events which provide revenue.
Does a new stadium need to be voted on? Since the City and County are pledging to work together, it does not appear that the two-thirds vote is going to be needed. However, Mayor Faulconer has indicated that even if a ballot measure for that two-thirds approval is not required, he feels it is mandatory for San Diego voters to have a say. The likelihood of a “yay” vote occurring in the sole circumstance of the City voting is like paddling your canoe upstream against the current. This team has fans that trek not just from downtown but also fans that travel from inland North County and the coastal communities as well as from East County and South County. Do you see where this is headed? Why should only those registered voters in downtown San Diego be responsible for making a decision that will ultimately affect those who reside outside its boundaries? Let us not forget what has been common knowledge for quite some time: the city coffers are not in the best financial state. Enter the county which is in a better position to assist. To best serve the San Diego Chargers and their many devotees, a county-wide ballot must be proposed, as it was back in the day when San Diego/Jack Murphy/Qualcomm stadium was initially presented in 1964.
The team has tried for many years to gain approval for a new home in San Diego. The city hasn’t always wanted to play ball even though its former mayors had stated that they would help facilitate such a project. Now, at the nth hour with Los Angeles becoming a mecca as it were, the timeframe is tightening. The facility that the San Diego Chargers currently play in is decrepit, falling apart, outdated and before long will not be a viable venue for anything. So, while the City and the County of San Diego each hire and task their chosen attorneys, advisers, and specialists with searching for a plausible, cohesive plan to make dreams reality, Dean Spanos and his special counsel, Mark Fabiani, will continue to pursue Carson, CA as an alternative.
Bottom line, it is do-or-die for Mayor Faulconer, Supervisor Ron Roberts, and the Citizens Stadium Advisory Group.
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On March 13, 2015, a ripple of concern and suspicion began when the Chargers announced that they would be bringing in quarterback (QB) Marcus Mariota for a private workout. Why bring in a QB who is expected to be drafted far before the Chargers first round pick at 17? Are the Chargers really looking to sign Mariota just to have him sit behind Philip Rivers for the next three years? Is Tom Telesco just playing pre-draft games with the other general managers? Or, are the Bolts actually considering a change?
As time went by, the ripple gained momentum and grew to the size of La Jolla Shores breakers. Social media outlets began throwing out conspiracy theories that were mostly shot down as, “crazy talk”. But as the days wore on, more and more twists were added to the plot. A trade with Tennessee for the number two pick in the draft was being discussed. At number two, the Chargers would have whomever the Buccaneers did not choose between Florida St. quarterback Jameis Winston and Oregon QB Marcus Mariota. To old school Chargers fans, this scenario makes them squirm as they recall the weeks before the 1998 draft when the Bolts picked second and assured themselves whoever was left between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. Not to say that Mariota will suffer the same fate as Leaf, but that is the thing about the draft: you just never know.
Well, those breakers became the size of Hawaii’s Bonzai Pipeline, when more and more dots were connected by the local and national media, along with sports talk radio, as they started digging around. Now the complete hypothetical plan was laid out and it actually seemed plausible! Rumblings from Chargers fans ranged from, “If they trade Rivers, I’m done”, to “Now it’s obvious that the Chargers want to move to Los Angeles”, to “It’s all talk! The Chargers will never trade Rivers!”
Just when you think it is safe to go back in the water, a tidal wave hits the shores of San Diego. Kevin Acee, of the UT San Diego, interviewed Rivers and received some discouraging answers from the Pro Bowl quarterback. When asked if he was working with the Chargers on extending his contract past 2015, Rivers said that he was not. He vowed to honor his contract and play out the next season in San Diego, but would not commit to re-signing with the Bolts for the future. Rivers went on to say, “I guess things could change, but with all the uncertainty in many aspects, I don’t see it changing before camp gets here, and when camp gets here I’m even more certain to play it (his contract) out.” He went on to say, “The good thing is that I’m not under contract in a year where we’d potentially be in Los Angeles.” That does not sound like a player who is locked into playing out his career with the Chargers.
So what are those, “many aspects” that Rivers is referring to? To figure that out, all one has to do is take a look at the current situation with the team, the stadium, his family, and yes, the future of the quarterback position for the San Diego Chargers. Not to get ahead of ourselves, let us take a look at the scenario that has been painted by the media, and fans, that might explain why there is so much speculation about the Mariota workout and the upcoming draft.
The current version of the Rivers trade theory is that he will be traded to Tennessee for the second pick in the draft. With most around the NFL believing that Tampa Bay will pick Winston number one, Mariota would then go to the Chargers at number two. This trade would work for a few different reasons. One, Rivers said that there are “many aspects” to consider before signing a contract to keep him in San Diego past 2015. One of those aspects would certainly be if the Bolts were staying in San Diego, or bolting to Los Angeles (LA). Perhaps Rivers does not want to leave his home in San Diego just to move his wife and seven kids to LA. If he is going to move anywhere, it would make more sense to move to the South, near where he grew up in Alabama. Tennessee is far closer to Alabama and the lifestyle is far more similar to Alabama than LA.
Furthermore, a trade to Tennessee would reunite Rivers with his former offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, the current head coach for the Titans. Rivers has one of his best years as a pro with Whisenhunt leading the way. Rivers would already know the offense and should be able to step right in and feel comfortable running the show.
Finally, there is the aspect of money. Rivers did not have a great year, by his standards, in 2014. Now would not a beneficial time for him to talk extension. If he plays one more season, with a vastly improved line, he may put up career numbers and be able to demand more money. Yes, Rivers is a nice guy, but even nice guys want to get paid. He does have seven mouths to feed after all.
Okay, all of that actually makes sense for why Rivers would look to leave. How about the Chargers? Why would they entertain the thought of trading away someone who is arguably a future Hall of Fame QB when he certainly has productive years ahead? Well, there are some reasonable answers to those questions as well.
First of all, Rivers is 33 years old and has never taken the Bolts to the Super Bowl. Two other quarter backs in the same draft class, Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning, have won rings. Now football is a team sport, so you cannot put all of the blame on Rivers for that, so that cannot be the problem. Next, the Chargers have had trouble protecting Rivers and all the hits he has sustained have definitely taken a toll on the aging QB. Perhaps bringing in a mobile QB, like Mariota, will enable the Chargers to sustain drives when the offensive line breaks down. Then again, with the signing of Orlando Franklin and the opportunity to draft a lineman in the first round ahead, the line should be greatly improved. Finally, perhaps the Chargers feel that Mariota has a skill set that will give them a true franchise quarterback for the next 10 to 15 years, while saving cap space by getting out from underneath Rivers’ contract.
That brings us to the stadium issue, which could possibly be the main reason the Chargers would entertain the thought of trading away the face of their franchise. Although team president, Dean Spanos, continues to say that he would like to keep the team in San Diego, there have been few signs that he is interested in working with the recently created Citizens Stadium Advisory Group (CSAG). In fact, twice the Chargers have had Carson related stories come out on the same days when CSAG members have held events in San Diego. Perhaps the thinking is that if the Chargers move to LA, they want to be the, “new look” Chargers, and Rivers is too closely associated with San Diego for that to happen.
So is it a good idea to get rid of Rivers? Not a chance! With Rivers, you are not only talking about the face of the team, but also the emotional leader. You are talking about a guy who gives players hope. How many times have you heard, “As long as we have number 17, we have a chance?” You will not get that kind of leadership from a rookie QB. Mariota may have a successful career in the NFL, or he may not. There are no guarantees (see Ryan Leaf). Many experts feel that he will be a work in progress at the next level. He needs to learn how to lead a huddle and take snaps from under center; two things that he did not have to do in college. Yes, these are teachable skills, but do you want your starting QB to be learning the basics while in live action? Seems like an awfully big risk for a team that has a viable answer for the position for the next few years.
Finally, trading Rivers would be a poor PR move. That would be “public relations”, not Philip Rivers. The Bolts have long been known for treating their veterans poorly. Rodney Harrison, Junior Seau, Drew Brees, Darren Sproles, LaDainian Tomlinson, and Vincent Jackson are all examples of players that were shown the door without so much as a, “thank you”. If the new leadership of the Chargers wants to break that cycle and be embraced by the community, they need to handle situations with class and show star players that they appreciate them. It seems a team that may need a large percentage of citizens to vote for a stadium would not want to anger their fans. That is unless they do not really want to stay in San Diego. Even if they do let Rivers go, trading him now is not the answer. Let him play out his last year and see what happens.
What do you think? Is it time to look toward the future? Or, is 2015 a must-win season so that the city will embrace the team and vote for a stadium? Let me know in the comment section below and I’ll get back to you.
Lately, I have been hearing, and reading, a lot about how fans cannot, “get into” free agency with the idea of the Bolts moving to Carson bouncing around in their heads. Scott Kaplan of The Mighty 1090 may be the loudest of all of the critics. On his radio show, Scott and BR, he has been working hard to find a way to get a new stadium built in San Diego, and has even said that he is confident that it will get done. Then he turns around and says that he is not excited about any Chargers personnel moves because they may only be in San Diego one more year.
If it were just Scott Kaplan saying this, I would chalk it up to a radio guy trying to drum up callers and listeners. But no, I have also been reading the same sentiment on various social media outlets. Don’t get me wrong. I am not saying that the majority of Chargers fans are turning their back on the team, or giving up on the new stadium. I am not even saying that fans are not going to watch the Chargers in what could be their last season in San Diego. All I am saying is that it is sad to me that during this exciting time, fans are letting their anxiety get in the way of their enjoyment.
I understand their point. I get that it is hard to be excited about a guy signing a five year deal when he may be gone in one year. Then again, are you going to stop rooting for the Chargers if a move does happen? Haven’t they proven over the last 14 years that they wanted to stay? Okay, some fans will turn their back and not support the team after the move. That is certainly their prerogative. But should those same fans destroy their personal enjoyment of watching Chargers football, even if it is their last season in their rightful home? I think not.
Let’s be honest, this is an exciting time to be a Chargers fan! General Manager, Tom Telesco, is hard at work trying to spend cap money that he has not had the luxury to spend before and players are coming and going at a startling pace! Let’s be honest, there were several holes in the 2014 version of the San Diego Chargers. This is Telesco’s chance to fill those holes and get the most out of the money he has to spend. Does he go after a stud running back? Does he get a veteran nose tackle? Who is coming to visit? What positions will he try to fill with the draft? Who will he let go and then try to replace? All of these questions and more can be answered during this hectic time that we call free agency. To me, that is exciting and fascinating. Not something that I will fail to enjoy because of something that I have no control over.
What if? What if this is the season when all of the stars align and the Chargers finally get that ring? Will you be excited even if you discover they are leaving the following month? Those who allow the stadium talk to take away their enthusiasm may just find it hard to enjoy the experience. At the very minimum, they will not enjoy it as much as they would have if they had been all in from the beginning of the process of building this team. This is it! Free agency marks the beginning of building the 2015 San Diego Chargers. Anything could happen in 2016. That has nothing to do with today. Just sit back, relax and enjoy Chargers football. Don’t worry about 2016, just be happy about 2015. The future will come soon enough.
So, how about you, Chargers fan? Are you closely following free agency? Do you find yourself not caring that the Chargers signed Orlando Franklin and Jacoby Jones? Are you sitting on the edge of your seat waiting to see if the Bolts make a major move? I know I am. Please leave your comments below.
Thanks for reading.
¿CARSON CHARGERS? REALIDAD QUE NO ES TAN REAL
Era otro día casual de postemporada; ya había pasado el Super Tazón, unos jugadores de vacaciones, otros negociando para continuar en su equipo previo o pasar a la siguiente oportunidad, y un día tranquilo en la ciudad de San Diego, California. De repente, la noticia llega:
“Chargers y Raiders anuncian planes para compartir un estadio nuevo en Carson, California”
Y fue el 19 de Febrero del 2015, que las redes sociales explotaron…..
Sorpresa, shock, engaño, traición, fue en general la reacción de la afición relámpago, no solo en la ciudad de San Diego, sino en muchos otros lugares donde hay seguidos de los Chargers.
¿Cómo es que dos rivales, que tienen una historia de odio “marca llorarás”, puedan unir fuerzas para compartir un estadio en Carson?
Se puede resumir en varios factores: Por más de 10 años, los Chargers y la ciudad de San Diego han batallado en la idea de construir un nuevo estadio, con la excusa de “No hay recursos monetarios para financiar un nuevo estadio”: Lo entendemos, construir un estadio es caro, y más cuando te encuentras en una ciudad donde no solo hay Fútbol Americano; hay turismo, hay gastronomía, hay cultura, arte, teatro, entre otras cosas.
¿Pero irse a Carson, California es la solución? ¿Aparte de compartir con un rival a quien muchos aficionados desprecian?
Compartiendo un poco mi opinión, el caso de los Chargers yéndose de San Diego a Carson, no se ve como un caso real.
Para iniciar, Carson, California esta ubicado en el condado de Los Ángeles, y como sabemos por estadísticas, Los Ángeles es considerado “Territorio de Raiders y Rams”, ya que ambos equipos tienen trayectoria previa en la ciudad de ángeles. Siendo este el caso, la afición de Chargers se reduciría a una pequeña cantidad comparado con las demás aficiones. Claro, si los Chargers y los Raiders compartieran estadio, uno de ellos tendría que moverse a la NFC, cambiando un poco la organización de las divisiones en las conferencias.
En mi perspectiva, el único beneficio que tendrían los Chargers en irse a Carson, es que tendrían un nuevo estadio. Sin embargo, no sería propiamente de ellos; sería un estadio compartido con un equipo cuya interrelación es básicamente negativa.
Se ha dado actualización a esta noticia, redactando que solo es un plan en caso de que no funciones las cosas en la ciudad más fina de América (San Diego). Se deben tomar cartas en el asunto, ya que el temor de que San Diego pueda perder a su equipo de fútbol americano nunca ha sido tan grande como lo es ahora.
– José “Joe” Martínez
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